Rove McManus and Peter Helliar have shared each other's highs and
lows since meeting in a comedy pub, writes Darren Devlyn
ROVE McManus is acutely aware you need a tough old hide to endure
in show business.
There are those who reckon McManus has had a dream run leaving
Perth for the bright lights of Melbourne's comedy scene in 1995 and
13 years later finding himself on BRW magazine's rich list with
reported annual earnings of $4 million.
But McManus is proof you can be feted and ego-stroked one minute,
then deal with being attacked in the media and paid little or no
respect the next.
It's been said you find out who your mates are when you're experiencing
a morale-thumping low. There's also a theory you find out who
your genuine friends are when you're at the peak of your powers
because success, even among people who seem close, can breed jealousy.
Perhaps this is why McManus and Peter Helliar have formed such a strong
bond.
Their mateship has not wavered since they met and were negotiating
the sometimes brutal stand-up comedy circuit 12 years ago.
They've shared every moment of their subsequent success in TV, but
have been at hand when each has had professional and private heartache
and needed support.
Tell us about meeting for the first time.
Peter Helliar: I remember doing a gig at the Elbow Grease comedy room (1996).
I was at the bar afterwards having a well-earned pot and I got a
tap on the shoulder and it was Rove. He said, "that was a great
spot'' and that he enjoyed my work. It was a bit of a mutual admiration
society there for a while. Not long after that Rove was going
back to Perth for a holiday, so I organised a "Roveathon''
a pub crawl. I think he was still wearing his Davenport vest around
at the time.
Rove McManus: I still had the long hair. Pete and I came to like each other
instantly. It does help when you like what someone's doing on stage.
It accelerates the friendship.
PH: Rove was actually my understudy for a show once, in my first year.
Billy Bragg also had a show on that I really wanted to see so
I asked Rove if he'd be my understudy.
RM: It started out as a gag, but I actually did the show. You (Helliar)
gave me permission to use your material. I started the show
with a bit of it, then panicked. I thought, "I feel dirty doing
this''.
When did it occur to you both that you were genuine mates?
PH: I've had this feeling with Rove, a bit of a giddy kind of feeling.
It's that thing where, when you see a mate, he makes you smile.
For a second there I go, "hang on, remind yourself here that
you do like women . . . but this guy makes me feel pretty good!''
RM: Is that what they call a man crush?
PH: It is a man crush. But it's really not a conscious thing of wanting
to be friends with someone. You just gravitate towards them.
What kind of experiences have reaffirmed the mateship you have?
PH: I just remember one night a long time ago Rove and I went out
and got drunk on vodka and we were going,"how cool is this?'' We
were about to start this adventure not knowing how long it would
last.
Mateship is about being around when times are tough. Rove, has Pete
helped you through tough times?
RM: For sure. Friends are there for you no matter what. When Belinda
(Emmett) passed away (in November 2006, after a prolonged battle
with cancer) I just disappeared. There wasn't much anyone could
have done. It was a "me'' thing. It wasn't for anyone else or
about going to anyone else (for support). It was all about what I
needed, though it's nice to know those friends are there for you.
Pete, were you thinking at the time that Rove simply needed time alone?
PH: There were times, over a decent period, where I would just ask
how he was going. Sometimes I'd think that the last thing he (McManus)
needs is to be asked about stuff. I might have got that right,
I might have got that wrong a couple of times. Part of being
there as a mate is to sometimes take your mind off things. If there
was a chat to be had, I was there.
RM: For me, the indicator of a really good friend is someone you might
not see for a while, but when you do it's like you'd seen them
yesterday.
PH: I was lucky enough to score a pretty good gig (Rove) and not many
people get the opportunity Rove did. Rove got to go to a major
network and choose the team to take with him. Usually, the network
identifies the talent, then puts other talent with them and often
these people don't even know each other.
What have you been up to in time you've had off?
RM: I went to Britain, Cambodia, Sumatra and Perth.
PH: I went to Dromana. The in-laws have a place there.
Tell us about your conservation work.
RM: It's Flora and Fauna International and I became an ambassador
for them last year. David Attenborough is their international patron.
I'm very much into conservation awareness and they said to come
and have a look at some of their projects.
What did you (McManus and partner Tasma Walton) see on the trip that
excited you?
RM: Wow, where do you start? It'll bore you, be careful. I will bore
the living s--- out of you if you get me started. At least let
this man (Helliar) go. We (McManus and Walton) tracked elephants,
rode elephants, played with baby bear cubs. We trekked through
the Cambodian jungle, had an orang-utan brush past me. We slept in
a cave, only to find out when we were packing up and leaving that
a tiger had been seen in the area three days before.
You released a picture of yourself and Tasma. Was that a deliberate
attempt to dilute a bit of that media interest in you?
RM: We took one pic for the papers, that was fine. Another one was
sold to the women's magazines. That wasn't fine.
PH: I made a fortune.
RM: You're officially looking at a source (Helliar) close to the couple!
You've been quite disturbed about some of the stuff written about
you and Tasma...
RM: They (magazines) can push it pretty far and that's always a problem.
They aren't getting the calls from people asking if the stuff
written is true. You are left to clean up the mess. The other
thing is, having photographers outside your house, I think it's
a bit rude. It's like they want to take a picture of you every time
you leave your house until they get something interesting. I try
not to think about it, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't bug
or annoy me and that I wish it wasn't there. There are more important
things to worry about.
The assumption has been made that you're in love. Is that wide of
the mark or is it the closest thing to the truth that's been written
lately?
RM: I'd think getting married and having babies is probably widest
of the mark.
But you seem in a fairly happy place now.
RM: I am happy, yes.
McManus hosts variety show Rove and is soon to appear in a new season
of his quiz show Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? Helliar,
a Rove show regular, also co-hosts with Myf Warhurst the Triple
M breakfast radio show, Pete & Myf.